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Old 03-15-2012, 11:59 AM   #21
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Very simillar to what I am planning here shortly. I am going with Powermax, Studs, hopefully a GoGo Stage 1 ported Intake but that will be last considering the $$$. Also doing a Regulated Return from Dozers, and a DF165 Airdog. Only Difference is the injectors, I am only going 155/50's I think for now, cause I still need to be able to tow max tow rating ++++. Like a couple time a month I am at GCVW of 32-34,000lbs moving a friends skytrax on a 35' dual tandem, Its typically never more than 15 to 20 miles and never over 50mph.

My daily trailer is about 8500lbs, and twice a week I tow around 15,000lbs. I average 30,000 miles a year towing those two trailers, so i figure I should just stick with 155/30's or maybe 50%'s?
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:38 PM   #22
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All that sounds expensive and time consuming....just drop in a 5.9 cummins and forget about it
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:22 PM   #23
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But then he'd have to tell people he has a cummins...

I'm wanting an upgraded turbo and some stage 2 injectors, but I need to rob a bank or reply to that email from that guy in Syria who has a family fortune for me before I can get them.
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Originally Posted by westtnfx4 View Post
All that sounds expensive and time consuming....just drop in a 5.9 cummins and forget about it
Yeah, because dropping in a 5.9 cummins isn't expensive and time consuming at all!

And then you still might crack a block, stretch a head bolt or blow a gasket when you put power to it....just ask my buddies with thier 5.9's! ....just sayin....people always wanna say the 5.9 is the cure all when in reality, it's just another mechanical engine.

The 6.0 is one of the most misunderstood engines out there. It got a really bad rap in the begining that it just couldn't overcome, when honestly, if you wanted to make it an extremely reliable engine it isn't all that expensive nor all that difficult.

EGR Delete $200
ARP's $450
Gaskets $250
Coolant Flush to ELC and Coolant Filter - $300ish

That alone would give you a very reliable engine for many many miles. Add about $1,800 for labor if you don't wanna mess with it yourself and you have a great motor for a little over $3grand. Then you have the left over $7 grand you saved from not doing a cummins conversion to add power in whatever from you want.
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I've been hearing that the 6.0 is a little more reliable than the consumer reports say. Just don't over boost without bulletproofing. And delete that EGR.
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Originally Posted by Bdons-SD View Post
I've been hearing that the 6.0 is a little more reliable than the consumer reports say. Just don't over boost without bulletproofing. And delete that EGR.
You are correct sir, the 6.0 is a GREAT motor if its done right and took care of, yes they have problems but you fix those problems and you can build the crap out of that motor and get major HP!!! The few things i done to mine helped out alot and it runs great now!!
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Originally Posted by Bdons-SD View Post
I've been hearing that the 6.0 is a little more reliable than the consumer reports say. Just don't over boost without bulletproofing. And delete that EGR.
One of the main problems the 6.0 had was it replaced the near bulletproof 7.3!
The 6.0 can not be treated like a 7.3, it needs regular maintnance. Fuel filters every 15K max, good oil and regular oil changes. It also doesn't like lots of short trips, it needs to be DRIVEN. Short trips that don't let it get up to temp then being shut off again is a death sentence. It also doesn't like to sit, moisture in the air then rusts the VGT, and you can have all kinds of turbo problems.

Some of the most reliable 6.0's are ones that are worked everyday in and out. Most of the real low mileage units are problems childs..not always, but it is definitly a pattern.

Part of the problem was people went from a 7.3 to the 6.0 in 03 and 04, and treated like they did their 7.3, they then paid the price for it.

I have 134K on my 06, I work it to the bone every day, I maintain it very well, but I am not easy on the truck at all! I have had 1 EGR cooler fail (warranty), IPR Valve (warranty) and recently a wiring harness problem (not under warranty) It is starting to have an injector issue, but other than that its been a great truck and I couldn't be happier with it.

Now that warranty is expired, I have an EGR delete, ARP's, new Gaskets, and new oil cooler waiting in the garage. In the next couple weeks I will start tearing it down to really bulletproof it. Just waiting to get money to get my Warren Injectors here then start!!

The thing is, you just need to be informed about the engine. Know what might happen, prepare for it and fix it if it does happen.

And no engine sounds better then a straight piped 6.0!!!! IMO that is.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:16 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by 06VT365 View Post
Yeah, because dropping in a 5.9 cummins isn't expensive and time consuming at all!

And then you still might crack a block, stretch a head bolt or blow a gasket when you put power to it....just ask my buddies with thier 5.9's! ....just sayin....people always wanna say the 5.9 is the cure all when in reality, it's just another mechanical engine.

The 6.0 is one of the most misunderstood engines out there. It got a really bad rap in the begining that it just couldn't overcome, when honestly, if you wanted to make it an extremely reliable engine it isn't all that expensive nor all that difficult.

EGR Delete $200
ARP's $450
Gaskets $250
Coolant Flush to ELC and Coolant Filter - $300ish

That alone would give you a very reliable engine for many many miles. Add about $1,800 for labor if you don't wanna mess with it yourself and you have a great motor for a little over $3grand. Then you have the left over $7 grand you saved from not doing a cummins conversion to add power in whatever from you want.
Cool your jets top gun The 5.9 diesel is one of the best ever made. Just like the 7.3 is. I am a Ford / International man. But you must admit they dropped the ball after the 7.3 and thus fords decision to go in house to build there own diesel. 6.0 in stock form is possibly the worst diesel made along wit the 6.9 old school Chevy diesel.

With that said I would deffinatly have a 6.0 if it was headed,studded, and deleted. At the time I was looking to get back into a diesel from my 1/2 Ton F150 super crew 4x4 I almost traded for a sweet 06 F250 crew cab lifted. I wanted it but we just couldn't get together on it. It had all the right engine work. Paper work to prove it.

Then I got the offer on my current truck. Met with him and drove it and fell in love. It's hard to explain untill you own a modded 5.9 CTD. It has a lighter feel (it is lighter and has 40% less moving parts) and is freaking fast. It sounds amazing with the 5" MBRP exhaust. It will now be hard for me to go back. I'm not saying I won't but it would have to be something amazing for me to switch. I do love a F250 tho. They are my first love
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:38 PM   #29
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Westin...just so ya know I wasnt replying that in a mad way, I am in no way shape or form upset. I just try to help others know that the 6.0 isnt exactly the peice of junk most think it is.
I meant nothing other than sarcasim when I said that the 5.9 isnt alot of money and time consuming. I know you know your stuff and are a longtime ford guy, just trying to help educate others that may be reading.

And thanks for leading me over here...loving the site so far!!!
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the dodges do drive much lighter I know, my buddies have several. From 1st gen on up to a 2011 6.7 cummins. I have driven them all, and for some reason still prefer my truck.
And your right the 5.9 is one of the best, but they do have problems too. Nothing like the 6.0 but they do breakdown still, and at a cost of 8-10 grand to convert, i would just bulletproof the 6.0 and save some coin myself......but I am a happy 6.0 owner so that makes a big difference!
To me, if somebody wants a cummins, they should do what you did and just by a dodge, I think its far less likley to have problems that way.
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